Just wanted to follow up on Jeff’s story in the paper today and something we touched on last week down in Frisco regarding the 2013 schedule; Gene Taylor told me last week he does not anticipate Western Carolina coming to Fargo on September 21st next season, now leaving NDSU with the challenge of trying to find a 6th home game, most of you will remember last year that this process went into March before the Bison inked a deal with Prairie View for 250 K; the most they had ever paid to get a team here, and likely it will take that again to get a team to come here. Why WCU is backing out is simple; the Catamounts are playing 3(!) FBS teams next season; starting at Middle Tennessee State (Aug. 31); Virginia Tech (Sept. 7th) and then Auburn (Oct. 21st) and figure those paydays will offset the 150 K they need to pay NDSU to get out of the game. When you add the Catamounts will play 4 Southern Confernece road games; that makes 7 total and just 4 home games currently; you can see why a trip to Fargo wouldn’t be in their best interests. WCU joins at least a handful of teams I know of that will play 3 FBS next year, which is outrageous, but when you need to pay the bills, that’s the way you do it.
Now as far as the theory I put out last week about UND; now that each team appears to have September 21st open, it was a long-shot that it was ever going to happen and Taylor’s comments to Jeff seem to cement that it won’t happen next season, even though it makes sense for both parties. Think of it this way; NDSU figures to have one of it’s strongest teams in history perhaps; coming off a 2nd straight national title and what way to generate even more buzz about the 2013 season by adding UND to a non-conference schedule that already includes Kansas State and Montana State. For UND, they have a schedule where they don’t leave the state for the entire 1st month of the season, including home games with SDSU, Montana and Montana State, for a team that likely will start a redshirt freshman at quarterback; but also gives them a chance to showcase their dynamic offense against the best defense in the defense. I already know the responses that I’m going to get on this so I appreciate your comments, concerns and no I dont take any drugs.
Much has been made of the impact of the terrific 2010 recruiting class, but just looking back at the 2009 class there are several players there that can be credited with helping turn this team around; who redshirted that 3-8 campaign; Ryan Drevlow, Andrew Grothmann, Tyler Gimmestad, Cole Jirik, Taylor Nelson, Leevon Perry, Kevin Vaadeland, Brock Jensen, Sam Ojuri, Derrick Lang and Danny Luecke. That doesn’t include guys that played right away like Garrett Bruhn and Bobby Ollman and three guys beset by injuries whose careers are either done or likely done in Jeff Jerve, Hank Jacobs and Justin Juckem. Maybe we should have seen the turnaround with that class before the explosion of 2010.
ok then, are you DRUNK!! leave it alone
Why all the negative backlash over exploring the possibility of an NDSU/UND game? I personally don’t care if they play or not but I also don’t see it as bad thing to consider. Why all the nasty responses? (Referring to the response above and the multitude of negative responses last time Dom brought it up.) At some point the pettiness (from both sides) needs to be left behind and we all need to just move on.
I’m a hardcore Bison fan but don’t “hate” the Sioux – opps – UND. I believe the economics would benefit both teams. The only reason I can see why a game would not be scheduled is that UND is not ready to play at the Bison level.
Were Robert Morris, Prairie View, Lafayette and St. Francis worthly to play at “the Bison level”? Get a grip. There is absolutely zero reason not to play UND in 2013 besides the petty bickering of NDSU fans. No “we have moved on” or “SDSU is our rival” or “we are so noble and will not play UND”…its going to happen.
BIGTIME: You sure post here a lot.
If NDSU offers UND a game next year and UND says no , will you find their blog is and have a hissy fit on every single entry for a couple years running.
If playing the Bison is so important to UND, they should be working to join the MVFC/Summit.
Actually, pettiness has nothing to do with it. NDSU schedules 3 non-conference games a season, and they want 2 of those games to be home games so that they can have 6 home games a season. They want that 3rd non-conference game to be an away FBS payout game. If UND would be willing to schedule a one-time game in Fargo for NDSU’s 12th game, I think NDSU would be for it, but I’m guessing UND is smarter than that when it comes to scheduling.
Every season, NDSU’s two main goals are to win the MVFC and then a national championship. It makes absolutely no sense to schedule UND because they’ll want a home-and-home, and that doesn’t help NDSU.
There are a lot of people that criticize NDSU for scheduling cupcakes at the beginning of the season. That’s called smart scheduling. They don’t need to prove themselves during non-conference play. They do that by winning the Valley and playing deep into the playoffs.
That’s why NDSU has not scheduled UND.
The “pettiness” remark I made wasn’t directed at the powers that be. They have multiple reasons (financial and otherwise) to make this happen or not. The pettiness I am referring to is from the posters spewing their hatred for the “other” school as a reason to not play the game. I’m seeing more reasoned responses on this thread. Last week’s was much more ridiculous in my view.
I agree completely with your post Patrick T. It doesn’t make sense to not have 7 home games but hopefully someday the series will be renewed. 2013 may just have to be a one time thing that NDSU will have to pay UND $150,000 to drive down the interstate 80 miles.
Just as many tickets were sold for the Robert Morris, Prairie View A&M, Lafayette, and St Francis as what would be sold for UND. And NDSU doesn’t have to go back there and play them. If UND would be willing to come to Fargo for a one and done guarantee game like those teams were they’d get on NDSU’s schedule just the same.
Delusional is the term that comes to mind in a lot of these blog postings.
Its going to happen so sit back and enjoy. Both teams are in the FCS now and playoff eligible.
Only reason that NDSU sells the same ticket amount for a low level program like Prairie View and UND home game is because the City of Fargo didn’t build a big enough stadium for NDSU. Let me know what the television rating difference and local media attention difference would be for the NDSU/UND game as opposed to a Prairie View game?
Und is a low level program. Did they even finish .500 in the big scare, where there is absolutely “no defense” at all?
I do agree the Fargodome is no longer big enough for Bison football. But it will cost 150 million to do an addition of about 20,000 more seats. Where do they get that kind of money? But for now we could play Mankato State and get the same sellout as UND would bring. Not being mean just telling the truth.
Ok, then. What about the $150,000 to $300,000 (estimates) that NDSU doesn’t have to give out to bring UND to town? Not to mention this thing called “tiered pricing”.
Yeah, playing Prairie View A & M is just as beneficial to NDSU.
Delusional is a good word for it.
As far as tiered pricing goes, maybe our administration doesn’t want to stick it to the fans? Just because you can make money off of a “special” game, doesn’t mean you have to give up a home game in the future. Bison home games are much more important than selling out to UND’s home-game demand.
You better believe they would have to pay UND $150-$300K to play a guarantee game in Fargo. The only other option is NDSU having to play a return game and that is something Taylor is not willing to commit to as of yet. Playing these other teams is just as beneficial financially to NDSU as playing UND is. This is not local hotel/bar/restaraunt owners who are making this decision, it is the athletic administration at NDSU. It shouldn’t be that difficult to understand.
Pay UND $150,000 to drive down the interstate for one game in 2013. Is it difficult to figure that out?
Tiered pricing is just part of the market demand. Every program does it. Otherwise I am buying up a ton of tickets and selling them to NDSU fans like I did for the National Championship and made over $1k.
why would a UND game get tiered pricing? Won’t that be something you do for marquee opponents like montana state, ysu, or uni?
I agree with you Bisman. Lots of money to be made from higher priced tickets, game sponserships, TV rights, ect.
Pay UND to come to Fargodome for 1 game and then do a home and home. After that both schools can decide how often they want to play each other.
BIGTIME,
Your a disgrace to Bisonation. Making money, ridiculling, stupid posts. Go away so we can discuss all the positives NDSU has done. I trust GT to do what is in the best interest of the Bison. If we play, we play. Personally I hope we do once next year, pay them some, and kick UND arse. Then see how recruiting goes for 3-4 years.
UND needs to take a one game deal just to get their foot back in the door.
Playing UND makes more sense than playing the likes of PV again. The only reason early cupcake games sell out is because its early in the season and the excitement is high, plus you have the tailgate factor. Nobody was excited about playing those teams.
At least UND would add some excitement and purpose to the early season.
There has been talk of the “economics” of the game. Does anyone really think that NDSU makes any LESS money if they play UND versus some other school at home????
The fact is that they will sell out the game either way. The only way taht this would be even considered by NDSU would be if it’s UND or not having a home game. If it comes to that, I believe that NDSU would take that opportunity to have an additional home game.
there ia absolutely no benifit for NDSU to play und , und only wants its ego stroked
Thinking you have the wrong team named when it comes to having an ego. What in the hell has UND’s football team done since making the move to DI that would give it an ego? When someone makes a comment concerning UND “not ready” to play NDSU, there’s your ego. Dom even mentions it in his blog that NDSU was 3-8 not too long ago. Things are cyclical. UND will again be successful, they may even defeat the almighty Bison. Deal with that.
We won’t have to deal with it for at least another 8-10 years, so we’re ok with where our ego is at.
Hahahaha. Ten years away, minimum. NDSU is running away with the recruiting advantage over USD, SDSU, UND, N IOWA.
Can NDSU ever have a scheduling discussion where UND isn’t brought up? It’s really getting old. Both teams have moved on and seem to be satisfied with not scheduling each other. If they play in the playoffs that would be great, but why does everyone seem to need a regular season game? Why does the media seem to keep bringing this up? Dom? Jeff?
As an NDSU fan I hope they never schedule UND in football for several reasons:
1) You can say what you want but the fact is UND hurt NDSU when they stopped scheduling them. When NDSU made the move they wanted to keep the rivalry intact, the UND administration said no and degraded the move by NDSU. Where were all of you people clamoring for the rivalry back then?Yeah, maybe it is being petty and vindictive, tough!
2) It does nothing for NDSU. They can afford to pay some stiff for the home game and still sell out no matter who it is, where as they would have to play in the Alerus, a smaller venue and losing a home game. Again, NDSU does not need UND!
3) If NDSU crushes UND, everyone says “Well you should”, if they win a close game it’s “Well we went toe to toe with them” out of UND, if NDSU should happen to lose (always a possibility, that’s why the games are played) it’s a huge plus for UND and negative for NDSU.
4) Does nothing to help NDSU’s recruiting. They already get most of the players they want now. A game against UND will only negatively effect NDSU’s recruitment of players.
5) Every team wants home OOC games. Same goes for both NDSU and UND. Both teams scheduling home games equates to more economic impact for all of eastern ND. A game between the two would just be recycling their own money. Doesn’t make any sense.
It is a no win situation for NDSU no matter how you look at it!
1) Sour grapes;
2) $150,000 for a single home game in 2013 and its “guaranteed win”
3) I am sure the FBS programs that schedule say the same thing…win we are suppose to or lose and its a huge upset;
4) They are both FCS teams…winning affects recruiting not just playing a game;
5) Prairie View, Robert Morris, Lafayette brought a lot of money to eastern ND???
One word….delusional!!!!
Some people keep throwing out the $150,000 figure. Even if NDSU did offer $150,000, that doesn’t mean that UND would automatically accept that. I think UND wants a home-and-home, and NDSU won’t agree to that.
The only way this game should happen is if UND agrees to play a one-time game in Fargo for $150,000 and bus fare…There is no reason NDSU should ever have to play a game in GF unless somehow UND gets a higher seed in the FCS playoffs and the two teams are paired up. NDSU is already giving up a home game in 2015 when they play at Montana as part of a home/home contract. Unless the Herd is traveling to an App St., Montana or Delaware type program, all FCS OOC games should be played in Fargo. A lot of people (UND fans) will probably have an issue with this, but it is what it is.
Thanks for the insight Johnny. Forgot your usual inclusion of a free meal. Must be on vacation, eh?
I’m not sure who Johnny is, but you are right…NDSU should throw in some vouchers to the Super Buffet on S. 45th St across from Wal-Mart.
I do agree that a UND/NDSU game would draw a HUGE amount of interest just because of the fact that they used to be huge rivals on the gridiron. However, the game itself would be no more exciting than a Bison/USD match-up. UND fans can argue all they want that it would be closer than that, but they would be wrong.
While I doubt your scenario will happen of a one time game, if it did, why would UND give NDSU a discount? NDSU paid PVA&M $250K, so that is at minimum the going rate.
Because UND hasn’t earned the right to get more than $150,000 IMO…If they can’t accept those terms, tough.
PVAM was one of the final options available last year and the $250,000 was warranted due to supply and demand…A game against UND isn’t needed or even desired at this point.
UND hasn’t earned the right to get more than $150K? If they don’t like it, tough? Not sure on your logic, but UND is more than likely fine with that. They have stated they aren’t looking for a 12th game, so as of now, no skin off their back. Taking one for below market price makes the conversation even more of a non-starter. I’m sure GT appreciates your very valuable help on negotiations though.
GT is the one who has stated that NDSU will need another game. And you’re right, it doesn’t have to be against UND. But teams know that NDSU will pay at least $250K to get them there. That’s going to be very near the minimum to get teams to Fargo whether you think they’ve “earned” it or not.
UND is a bus team with no overnight.
I think it is ridiculous they don’t play. We used to have huge family reunions during these games and it was a blast. Most Bison fans and a few Sioux fans. We gave each other crap, ate, drank and enjoyed it more than the holidays. How about giving the majority of the taxpayers (i.e. your employers) what they want. I know some snobs from both sides don’t, but most do. Bison fans should want to play them now while they aren’t elite yet. It would be a 30 point game next year! Not a huge fan of either AD at this point, time to check the egos and get it done.
I’m sure he means no offense, but I don’t think Gene Taylor cares about your family reunions when he schedules games. These last two years, it seems that most taxpayers have wanted national championships as opposed to a regular season game with UND. I think you should start reading some of the more rational posts here. This game does not help NDSU at all. Ego has nothing to do with it.
I thought wins help a teams playoff changes…but I could be wrong a win against UND doesn’t count?
If NDSU was anticipating going .500 in the MVFC, then I think they would be looking at a 12th game to help their record. Next season, they’ve got their eye on the conference championship again, so a 12th game isn’t as big of a deal for the Bison. With the grind of the Valley schedule, those bye weeks are pretty valuable.
No more family reunions since UND quit? Is your family disfunctional like UND?
Nobody cared about PV. Their will be considerably more interest with UND.
You’re definitely right about that, but Gene Taylor doesn’t give a rip about appeasing fans when he does the scheduling.
Nobody cared cared about PV ? Then how do you explain the soldout FF ?
Early season game and tailgating. Nobody was excited about playing PV.
On paper (always a scary thing to do) the anticipation of an NDSU – UND game could potentially generate a lot more fun than the actual game. Consider this: this fall UND lost to Cal Poly by 18 points, to Eastern Washington by 38, and to Montana State by 45. These three teams lost to Sam Houston State during the FCS playoff run, and NDSU then beat Sam Houston by 26 points.
As I mentioned above, an NDSU/UND game in 2013 would have a similar result as an NDSU/USD game in 2013. Facts are facts. It’s not arrogance, it’s truth.
I think you are having trouble distinguishing between “facts” and “opinions”. But who cares about facts on this blog only irrational opinions are deemed facts here.
Big time is nothi g but opinions but carry on
yaaa heee !! bison fan forever !
I love how Dom continually asserts himself into this convo. Hi Im Dom and look at me. you were given the same facts about wcu months ago but claimed you cant go off speculation. now you get a quote and head straight for antagonistic speculation when you have 0 clue what you’re talking about. Good job buddy way to get some web clicks and ignore your pretend media ethics. If you get the info from bisonville you ignore it. Yet if you make it up in your own head you believe it to be fact. You truly are impressive.
Relax, Dom is just doing his job. He reported that Gene Taylor expects WCU to buy out of the game. He didn’t say it was official yet, because it isn’t. He then merely pointed out that if WCU buys out, both UND and NDSU will have Sept. 21st as an open date. I’m having a hard time seeing what’s unethical or antagonistic about that.
Drop the UND talk. I do not want to play them ever.
Here are two reasons.
1. As a season ticket holder, any home game is going to sell out. If UND is scheduled, you know it will be a premium game and therefore the tickets will go up in price. Why would I want that when I do not ever care to play them or pay them in any way.It is a no lose for them.
2. Those who want this game, I believe are just trying to say or do what they think is the popular direction of this deadbeat conversation.
I know Dom is trying to do his job, but quite frankly he and Jeff do a great job of covering NDSU, they do not even have to bring this up and most people would be fine. It does create a lot of opinions, but let UND have their hockey and quit trying to cram the stay behinds on to the Bison schedule. Enough already.
No we arent saying we want the game because of the direction of conversation. It makes sense. We need a game. We have the same dates open. The only reason NOT to play the game is petty BS.
If you read up a little further, you’ll find 6-7 good, rational reasons why NDSU should not play UND.
Nothing but hyperbole.
I hate the susies as much as anyone, but…
Just play the game. If there was ever a time to kick their ass, now’s the time. So just play the game, kick their ass and be done with it.
Do a one game guarantee based on the matching open date/12 game opportunity and play the damn game. No more arguments over home and home, who screwed who in the transition to FCS, whining about not benefitting NDSU, recruiting…all the same old garbage. Just play the game and kick their ass.
It would be fine to just let them stew in their juices forever, but what the hell, let’s just get this over with and play the game. If there was ever a time that the moons align in such a way that everything points toward a Bison advantage (including in PR terms), this is it.
Play the game and kick their ass
UND can play anytime they make a decent offer I suppose? I know they have turned down decent offers from NDSU. Its about money and they dont want to pay. Its going to cost them one way or another because NDSU has twice the stadium size and that has to be factored into the price. NDSU also has a fairly high FBS price that needs factoring in as well.
We have $150,000 from the buyout so we only need another $100,00 – $150,000 to set up a game with somebody. Athletics is the front porch. If we have to spend that kind of money lets get a game with a school from another area of the country so we at least get some exposure.
A game with UND will assure weeks or months of negative exposure for NDSU. we already get it from KFGO personalities without playing them. NDSU is also on the receiving end of endless stream of hate from UND fans, which we already get without playing them. It wont get better and will only poision the water and be devisive.
Its a no win if we have to pay a premium to UND to come here or go there for less than we can make with an FBS game. For a fair price the game would happen. It would already be scheduled if UND understood that.
This game is about money. A fair offer accepted and you have a game. It would have already happened but UND turned down what were fair offers. They simply do not want to pay. NDSU has $150,000 is WCU buys out. Thats a nice downpayment on a game with some other school from an area of the country where NDSU can get some exposure. Thats why athletics are the front porch of the university.
We get nothing but negative exposure playing UND. We already get it from KFGO without playing and there is already a steady stream of negative exposure coming from their fans. Playing the game will only make it worse. Its devisive and thats the sad reality. NDSU is better off not playing this game especially if the price isnt right.
Why must YOU and others TAINT the NDSU championship with this bs seriously the only ones that want this game is desperate fools like the media and und people. They need it we don’t quit with this nonsense
NDSU ought to look into playing NAU or Idaho. It would be good competition, the stadiums are similar, and you could arrange nice back to backs.
Good idea, and then athletics will be functioning as NDSUs front porch! It would adding New, positive exposure and opening new relationships with other schools.
Anyone remember the Bison-Sioux game in GF featured in SI? The game was decided by a Bison field goal described by the SI writer as “the lowest, slowest” fieldgoal he ever saw.
I think the media wants this game more than many fans. To the students it doesn’t mean as much as it used to, to those who are tired of the name calling and finger pointing it’s history. Lousiville and Kentucky don’t play every year in basketball this rivalry can RIP for a few more years.
The media’s job is to report facts and stir emotion in the public. Because Dom and Jeff are in the sports media field, they understand that a good part of their job is to propose the “what if”. These intense reactions that we’ve been reading on this blog is exactly what they’re paid to do, and they’re good at it. People don’t realize the extent of their research.
Some people think that it doesn’t take much to write a blog or get certain tips on a situation or player, but Jeff and Dom work tirelessly to make this blog relevant and thought provoking, and I think a lot of people are oblivious to what Jeff and Dom are trying to do with this media blog.
UND quit. Press conference announcement. Not in their best interest to play. Now it seems it is and they cry because they dont get their way. UND teams aren’t part of Dakota College Sports like other Dakota Big 3 members, , they are just an out of conference game. If they want to play they have to make themselves available just like any other OOC team. Right price and terms = game for UND.
Nice creative interpretation of the facts. JBB, which team is losing a currently scheduled game? Which team’s media guru (fluffer) wrote this blog post you replied to? Seems lately the topic comes up in Fargo. Who brings it up?
If it’s really, really important for UND to play NDSU every year, then get working on having UND join the MVFC/Summit. It would save UND a ton of money and their athletic teams (but hockey) would be relevant at least once a year.
I always love this one: NDSU footbal has more DI wins, more FBS wins, more BCS wins, more wins against ranked opponents, and greater total attendance in the last two years than UND has had since they started their DI transition.
I think the NCAA should send the Championship Banner to UND every year that NDSU wins it, btw.
You are the fluffer ialto. The NDSU football schedule is the dream of every UND fan. They want on. That’s the most coveted game in UND history. Biggest game the UND football program could possibly schedule. Why did UND quit for the third time again?
I think we should try to bring in a MAC team. The extra 150K should help pad what we can pay them.
playing und is a bad idea. we cant lose sight of the goal of winning a national championship. we already have 2 very hard non conference games in Kansas State and Montana State. Last year we had Robert Morris and Colorado State. UND is very winnable but it will be the biggest game in nearly a decade for them. We need this to be an easy win that counts. if we lose to top 10 KSU and a non conference game, we will instantly lose home field advantage. Then we need to go 7-1 just to make the playoffs or undefeated the rest of the way for a seed. The road to Frisco needs home field advantage. Now ask yourself, is it worth it?
Sounds like you are afraid to play them.
Und quit the series 10 yrs ago. 3rd time in the history of the series that UND quit playing. Then they quit the Dakotas. You can quit all by yourself. To get back in requires the cooperation of others you have wronged. Afraid? No, disgusted by UND behavior is more like it.
You used to post the same smegma on another site.
Gabe
How would playing UND be different that any other team except for the hype involved? You are being way to dramatic.
Just to set the record straight. The NDSU (Bison, we can sitll use our proud mascot) has 19 National Titles (Football-10, WBB-5, Wrestling-4). UND ( ) has 7 (hockey-7, FB-1). Just saying.
Actually, UND’s women’s basketball team owns three national championships, but that still doesn’t put them ahead of NDSU.
You are correct. The fact website does not even have WBB as a sport there.
We should be getting a game against Alabama, Florida St. or Notre Dame. We need someone that might give us a challenge next season. We aren’t going to get one during the regular season. We are stacked next year.
Umm…did you pay any attention during conference play this last season? The Bison hardly breezed through the Valley and it will probably be the same way next season. The only thing we don’t need more than a game against UND is a game against Alabama.
You think they are that good that you are afraid to play them?
Or are you scrambling for more excuses?
I don’t think it has anything to do with excuses or being afraid of playing anyone. I think it has everything to do with NDSU having bigger goals than beating UND or a top BCS school. It might be hard to come to terms with, but the fact of the matter is playing a non-conference game against UND doesn’t even stir emotion in our players and coaches anymore. It doesn’t matter if some of the fans want it. Gene Taylor doesn’t ask the public’s opinion when he does the scheduling.
You are doing a lot of talking for people at NDSU which isnt fact.
Dom, if your intent was to stir the pot, you did. Now, why don’t you just STFU !!!
Bison getting through the playoffs was like watching the rescue efforts to free the California Grey Whales stuck in Alaska in 1989 ” Operation Breakthrough”
Big moral victory for UND basketball last night! Hope their football recruits were there to see it! Montana flew into Fargo for the beloved bus trip to grand forks. Toughest place for all of those western teams they play to get to, one of the easiest places for those teams to play and win. Lots of grumbling by Montana folks. Did the UND fans storm the court at the half after the big moral first half win? Best half of BB ever played in the Betty, or so it is written. I think NDSU may have played UND in BB this season too, but who cares? They are just another OOC game.
You’re a great fan to drive to Fargo from Willmar to greet the Montana team and visit to get their comments.
Seems you care. You bring them up in every post.
On the other hand the game at NDSU saw The Bison move be step closer to a Summit title with an exciting win over Summit league rival IPFW. Next up the Grizzlies, the real Grizzlies. NDSU has an every growing chance to get to the big dance again with each Summit league victory. It’s coming down to the big finish and the crowds are coming to the BSA in droves to enjoy it. Dakota college sported fans love the Bison and the Dakota Big Three!
What’s an IPFW?
It’s the same as a PSU, an ISU, an EWU or an SUU. Just one more letter of the alphabet.
The Big Sky plays basetball? I haven’t seen any of those teams in the midmajor basketball polls.
The “midmajor polls”? Really? Is that the best you have?
Does everything have to turn into a rod measuring contest?
Your just a goofball dreaming of the big football game at the Fabulous Fargo Dome. I guess basketball wasn’t enough?
UND pretty much owns the fargodome in football if i recall. Maybe you’re referring to that on-the-cheap indoor track facility you built? lol word of advice: next time try to build one that’s big enough for a 300 meter track. lol
Just be happy NDSU allowed UND to play basketball. That seems to be the only way UND can get into the Fabulous Fargo Dome! By the looks of the last game if it is played again its headed back to the BSA.
10 years ago? Yes
But you havent done much since then. But the Bison have.
Sure getting on the NDSU football schedule is a huge deal for any school and a great gift to visiting out of conference teams. So get in line UND with hat in hand and feel blessed you have been allowed to play NDSU in basketball.
Actually, I think the undies should pay NDSU for the privilege of being allowed to play in the Fargodome. After all, when was the last time their football team played in front of a packed venue? a packed anything for that matter? Yeah, that’s right……. coughed up some dough, Faison, or no go !!!!
Ive also been wondering why NDSU would have to pay UND $200-300,000?
UND is the one screaming for the game. They wont have any expenses except for the bus trip down.
So someone tell me why would give them a dime?
It always cracks me up that the claim to fame at NDSU is how much beer they can drink. And at the same time, the donations are always falling short to do any projects. How long has it taken to get the last few measely millions to get the entire BSA remodel financed? If NDSU followers would take one season worth of tailgating beer and instead use that money towards athletic donations, my guess is the BSA would be done and a 50,000 seat football stadium would be breaking ground the following spring. but instead, drink up! LOL
You’re drunk bro.